Tuesday 26 July 2011

Zanjeer Zani is Allowed in ISLAM (Proof)

YA ALI A.S. MADAD..... All new ulamas in shias like Muhammad Hussain Dhakkoo and Jawad Naqvi says that Zanjeer Zani is not the theme of Islam. They have the thinking that we should donate our blood to any patient and should not do Zanjeer Zani.

BUT let us concentrate that IS Zanjeer Zani allowed in Islam or not....


  • First, Surah Yousef, When all the ladies of EGYPT saw Hazrat Yousef a.s. for the very first time, they cut their hands with knives. 


NOTE: If those women cut their hands in the love of Yousef, there is no matter, but if Shias do Zanjeer Zani in the love of the Grandson of our beloved Holy Prophet S.A.W.W. then is illegal.

It is also said that, those women cut their hands in the love of yousef a.s. due to his beauty. They couldn't bear that beauty and cut their hands involuntarily. But shias do zanjeer zani voluntarily hurt their bodies.

The reply is very simple to Muhammad Hussain Dhakkoo and Jawad Naqvi that there is another act in islamic history about hurting one's own body by himself voluntarily given bellow:


  • When Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W.W. was in the war of OHAD. His (S.A.W.W) holy tooth was injured by a nonbeliever. Hazrat Awais e Karni (R.A) was not present at OHAD's battle but when he heard about this, He R.A. took a stone and broke his all 32 teeth in a moment in the love of Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W.W. 
Now, the persons who are giving Fatwas against Zanjeer Zani because hurting ourselves is haraam, then what would you say about Hazrat Awais e Karni R.A. who broke his 32 teeth just in love of Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W.W. and hurt himself badly. It is not written in any book that after this, Prophet Muhammad S.A.W.W. forbid him to do that or showed any anger in result of his act.

This proves that Zanjeer Zani is allowed in Islam because Prophet Muhammad S.A.W.W. did not said anything against the act of Hazrat Awais e Karni R.A. We also show our love to Imam Hussain a.s by presenting our blood because Imam Hussain a.s. present his blood in the way of Islam and to save Islam.

43 comments:

  1. thts true... i totally agreed

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    1. zanjeer zani is just your fashion

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    2. in my views zanjeer zani is the greatest sin exactly equal to Zannah

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    3. you just make our beloved imams upset for that

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    4. you just make our beloved imams upset for that

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    5. U shoul ask from ur mom their is something not good in ur birth....that u say zanjeerzani is equal to zanah.....conform ur self then speak

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    6. U shoul ask from ur mom their is something not good in ur birth....that u say zanjeerzani is equal to zanah.....conform ur self then speak

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    7. Yar kidhr se kidhr ky Jor laitay ho baatain. Jb rasool e khuda SAAW ne farma dya k wo shaks hum me se nhi Jo khud ko peetay, apna ghairban chaak kre. Tu tum is se aage mazeed kya Inkari ho. Baqi Hidayat 1400 saal pehle aa chuky. Aage research kr lo. Or me gawahi deta hon k zanjeer zani haram he or haram rahe gy. Mind set baatai bananay se ye suchai nhi badal sakty.

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  3. zanjeer zani is just your fashion

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    1. No zanjeer zani is not fashion it shows our love to Imam Hussain(A.S)

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    2. if you want to express your love to imam hussain then you should not do these type of act because you are not following the preaching of Imam jaffar sadiq a.s ,,imam never told us to do this type of action for expressing the love of Imam hussain ..you can research it. Marjae taqleed ,rehber moazam imam ali khamnaei also reject these type of actions..

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    3. If you want to express your love than go at (thar), spend time without water, walk barefoot on hot desert. Do not block road by containers. Do not force for network disconnect.Thats not a true love, that's only manoply to spread hates by act on carpeted roads closed from both side and blocked road with fear of terrorist attacks. Ha... What kind of love is it. Show off by saying k falan momin bhai ne 5 inch ky churiya mari thy tu mashor ho gya tha. Me 7 inch wali maaron ga. Us se ziada naam banao ga. Truth never be change.

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    4. Shame....when a lady used to throw garbage on prophet Muhammad dis prophet used another street to a oid the same? No. Similarly when any innocent killing is done the roads are blocked every where you then dont mind. But by the time any jaloos is seen with reference to ashora muharram you people start arguing against it. Its your hate againnst Ahl e bait Rasool and your love towards Yazeed.

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  4. in my views zanjeer zani is the greatest sin exactly equal to Zannah

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    2. Can i ask why this comment was removed and what was in that

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  5. Zanjir Zani isn't allowed in Shia Islam. It's a culture. People do it for Fashion.
    Why don't our ulama stop this things. People laugh on us. I have many sunni friends that laugh on me. Please read Views of Grand Ayatollahs regarding Tatbir (Zanjeer Zani) here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatbir
    10 Ayatollahs out of 12 told us to avoid that animal act. For God sake listen to Ayatollahs instead of those Ulamas who started Majalis after being two years in Madrassas.

    Thanks.

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    1. Thousands of people even laugh at Rasool SAW when they told them they are Rasool E Khuda. Do not care about those people. They only can laugh at someone you have to understand the fact and the reason behind the of every act performed in inslam.

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    2. People might lough at quran too when they read that ladies of Misr had cut their fingers in love of hazrat yousaf. They also.might loigh to read that hazrat ibraheem had fallen himself in fire despite the fact that fire could burn him. Think twice before u share any thing silly

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  6. not sure what does this prove. have u read quran.. does it really say that they cut their hand in love of yousaf??? I think u should read again... it was an involuntary act...don't draw conclusion and misquote quran for your sake..

    also don't take examples from Hazrat Awais qarni.. if you really love Imam hussain as much as Hazrat Awais Qarni loved prophet (PBUH) you should be in karbala fighting against the forces who want to demolish our spiritual places not sitting in Pakistan and thinking that shedding ur blood will prove love for imam hussain.... all these arguments are baseless and our first reference should be quran.. when allah says that tumhari janain tumhara pass allah ki imanat hain then we should avoid these things....
    Appologies if I have offended you. Salam

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  7. Sir in suraha yousuf the womens was told to cut apples by the queen zulikha and by attraction of bueaty of hazarat yousaf they unknowingly cutted there finger and in full suraha yusaf there is no legal permission by Allaha pak to the ummat to cut any part or to hurt ourself plz for allaha sake dont missuse Quran for ur convince just because of Some people whole Siha part is Abbused by others plz do hell u wanna do but atleast keep respect of the words of My Allaha Dont spread wrong msg i have verse for that tooo plz bhai dont take people towards Darkness Allaha Bless uhh

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  8. Hazarat uwais has broken there 32 teeths where Hazarat nabi paks only 2teeths(not sure) was broken so on this basis hazaat owais did more for there maula so u also do more what imam husain did u also go to some war and plz die there my imam is allive but u will not bcoz what u wanna say is not the love of Alluhul bait it is against the Islamic society and also quran
    There is some logic that wasteing the blood i useless that maulana is telling good thing u should donate it those duas will take u till imam but ur waste blood will flow into the Drainage Total waste
    Allaha pak says he has given us mind to think not to listen others apply our own logic and run according to ur mind and logic coz allaha is master of all
    Bless u

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    1. Dear you are wrong.... We do zanjeer zani to give pursa to our AQA ZADI s.a ...... and u should also know why banana was send as a food to Awais Qarni r.a and WHO has send this fruit to him and suddenly what Awais Qarni was declared?
      If Allah Pak didnt like the above mention act than Awais Qarni didnt declare jannati.... we are not doing this as fashion..... we are dear enough to sacrifice our lives in LOV of Pak Muhammad s.a.w.w and Ahlaibat s.a.

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  9. Zanjeer zani should be banned like its banned in Iran by imam khumani first of all there is no hadis or anything in which it says we have to do zanjeer zani u can do matam I can understand but cutting ur self is not allowed in Islam and it's not delievring any positive message to any other religion or fiqa.

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  10. Sir may i know the refrence for this Hazrat Owais Karni (R. A) act?

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  11. I am a proud shia and have researched this topic a lot but I do not believe in zanjeer zani based on very simple facts. Firstly, the references in defense of zanjeer zani quoted by a brother are vague to justify the act of zanjeer zani and are insufficient. You have quoted Hazrat Owais Qarni R.A this was something done out of overwhelming love and in the state of being completely emotional. Before you link it to zanjeer zani also being in the state of emotional, let me ask you a question. Did Hazrat Owais Qarni R.A plan this act beforehand or perform it every year in the memory of Uhad? Did our Prophet PBUH inspire and encourage others to do the same in His love or for the love of his family? Why is it that there are no other prominent examples of a companion hurting himself in love of Ahl e Bait and being rewarded? Why has there been no narration from ANY of our imams supporting or encouraging this act in any way? People used to mourn for Imam Hussain A.S and the events of Karbala during the lifetime of our imams. How it is that they did not mention it? Because this is traditional activity created by us! Also lets not forget the act of zanjeer zani is performed on yearly basis which means it is PLANNED it is not something sudden, it also creates fear around people which could lead to defaming our fiqah for those who are interested to learn about shia islam and come close to it. The basic morals of Islam suggest us to behave in a way that invites people to Islam not scare them away. After witnessing zanjeer zani people are feared and misunderstand the shia islam. Please try to understand this.

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  12. Hazarat uwais has broken there 32 teeths where Hazarat nabi paks only 2teeths(not sure) was broken ,,,is this hadith is true i think is not true because when 2teet of huzur pak PBUH was broken at that time Hazrat ali R.A ad hazart fatima R.A.H was With him and cleaning blood on face of huzur pak s.a.w.w .my question is that is awais r.a love muhammad pbuh more than hazarat ali and hazarat fatima rh.???

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  14. Is owais qarni hadis in our four authentic books of hadiths??

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  15. Not acceptible proof, we know that hazrat awais qarni's love for Prophet muhamad pbuh. on the time of ohad Mola ali and bibi fatima a.s was there but they did not do any type of act. obiviously no one can express their love for prophet muhammad pbuh more than ahley bayt ,is Any proof from any imam.if any imam did this type of matam like zanjeer zani and qama zani or they ordered us .then i will definetly accept it..

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    1. bihar-ul-anwaar says when aftermath karbala bibi (s.a.w.s)
      were taken to kufa when bibi zainab (a.s) saw the head of her brother imam hussain she bet her head onto a cariage and drained blood frm her head as matam is known as the last stage of giriyah and sadness . when ur really sad for them nd u dont hv control over the tragedy happen u do matam . even sunnis make fun of sham e gareeba majlis . why dont u ask them to stop live for urself. not accordingly to ur sunni brothers
      stop doing matam dont give tabara ur sunni brothers will feel bad ryt . why dont u become a sunni wen u care so much about ur sunni brothers ..

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    2. need any more proof please change relegion we shias wont stop matam e husaini kisi ke pass damm hai toh rokhlo matm o majlis o hussaini rokhney wala 1000% nahalali hai

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    3. Nehjul balagha khutba no 119
      Isme mola ke sahabio ne mola se pucha ki mola hame siffin ke shahedo ki bht yaad ati h to hum kya kare to mola ne farmaya agr tumhe unki yaad ati h to tum par lazim h ki apni botiya katoo

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  16. Zanjerr zani is halhal ...........
    Or haram ...

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  17. OK First of all, I need to clear up that, Allah told us to follow what is written in the Quran Right? and what the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) Thought us... so Zanjeer zani was not written in the Quran and neither did the Prophet (PBUH) told us anything about it he didn;t even tell us to do THIS in the rememberance of any Messenger or Prophet. AND WHY in the world would Allah want us to Hurt ourself?, for the sake of any prophet, messenger or person. It is commen sense! which people need to know about. This is Haram and Forbidden Please don't do this I beg you this will take you to the wrong way! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

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  18. Brothers no body can describe love but every body can express love in their own ways... discussion end .

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  19. Zanjeerzani love for mola Hussain as

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  20. I am a shia but im still kind of young and dont know much about it
    And this sunni keeps asking me where in the quran it says we should do matam and zanjeer so please does any one have a answer to this

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